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8 Responses to “I feel so legit. (Kind of, anyways)”
That was an excellent presentation. I don’t know if you were really descretly reading off anything, but it looked as if you were just really confident with your information and speaking from memory. It didn’t sound like you were reciting anything, you were just talking about it. Also you talked naturaly and interestingly and I laughed several times.
Because I feel obliged to leave critisism aswell, there is the obvious problem with you standing in front of the projection, you are occasionaly unclear or pause to long while figuring out what to say (but thats fine since it was from memory) and you weren’t always easy to follow.
I think to improve it you should try taking many takes. This risks the problem of sounding less natural, but you would be able to speak more fluidly throughout with fewer ums and you knows.
I’m just fishing for critisisms though. That was really really good. I thought you were doing flight?
Toren’s comment continued (sorry).
I just figured out why you were snapping through the whole thing. It makes so much more sense now.
Just for clarification, the process of normal creativity and mental illness is the same, but for unknown reasons people with mental illnesses shut down the brains and live in the creativity? I’m not quite sure that’s what you meant. If we could somehow control whatever is happening in the brain, causing the mental illness, would that be safe? If it would be safe it would probably be an amazing tool for all kinds of artists. As you said, some people who were treated couldn’t create the same way they could before. People who are mentally healthy could create in a completely new way. I don’t know if there are any ethical problems wrapped up in that. I think it would depend on how real it is for the artist. For isntance, is the creativity/delusion going to be mentally scarring or unpleasant. Maybe if we could safely change the brain chemistry somehow. Add some more dopamine in there. Consider me engaged.
Throughout your whole presentation, I was drawn into the genuine-ness (sorry, not real word) of your voice, and the continuing flow of your writing. Never was I bored, though at times I felt I could do with a nice, fat, easy-to-understand diagram when you start to go more in depth into the dopamine, the thalamus, cortex, D2 receptors, etc.
If we were to control the amount of dopamine that flows into the cortex, the thalamus would have to be targeted, right?You often use the word “filter” when you talk about the thalamus. How much power do we really have over that part of the brain? Can we control it to a certain degree? Or does it take a chemical reaction from medication to “fix” the filter?If we really were able to manipulate the thalamus into only letting a “safe” amount of dopamine into the cortex, what would happen to the rest?
That’s all for now… do not be surprised if I attack you with another comment.
DUUDE wow. The funny thing is that just a couple of days ago I totally listened to this thing on the radio all about the exact same thing. When I listened to that, and then to your fabulous TED Talk, I had some of the same questions.
With what I know of this subject (which is limited I will admit) is that it’s kind of like when people are between the stages of mania and depression that they get amazing ideas? I suppose it would be at that stage where you have all these ideas but wouldn’t yet be at the point of hallucination where you can’t really do anything, or at the stage where you feel like you can’t do anything at all.
If it’s all to do with that “filter” process you talked about, is there any way to say, manipulate it in the way a mental illness does but not quite to the same extreme levels? Obviously we don’t want to make people go insane, but I wonder if there would be a way to enhance creativity say for a couple of hours, just to solve a very complex problem or get an idea for the next Harry Potter? (I could use that ) Imagine if there was something along the lines of liquid creativity which alters your brain just enough to reduce the filter so that your brain could potentially make more and unusual connections? If they have medication which I imagine does something along the lines of fix the filter, do you think it would be possible to have something which in a controlled manner reduces the filter?
Anyways, probably totally far-fetched but one can dream…
Also, amazingly well done. Looks like a pro TED Talk.
I remember watching you do this live, and just being in awe about how well you had memorized it, and how you presented with such ease-so much like a real TED Talk! Even though I wasn’t a master at changing the slides at the right time… and even after you changed your subject a million times…
One concept that you addressed wasn’t very clear to me. What causes the sensory thalamus to let a higher level of dopamine into the sensory cortex? And why is this overload constant in those with Schizophrenia, while I’m assuming it often comes in just bursts to others, when they have creative moments or periods?
As many others are bringing up, (in the words of Megan), “liquid creativity” would be a very interesting, amazing, and creepy invention. I wonder how many human rights issues that would bring up? It would be the fight between permanently altering a persons brain and making them mentally unstable, or even killing them, and possibly solving some of the worlds worst problems. Would the risk be worth it? And how would you even get to the point where you could test that product on someone?
WOAH. My mind is blown, taking in all this information about my mind.
So, if we were to cure somebody of schizophrenia, would they be totally uncreative, and just generally a really lame person? And it goes the other way too. If we attempted to make someone more creative, would they go completely nuts and a certain point?
There were some awkward pauses in there though, and what seemed to be some technical difficulties, but it didnt detract too much from the presentation itself.
Anyways, great TED talk, and it gave me quite an insight to how the brain works. (which i didn’t know too much about before)
ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND I FEEL LIKE A FAILURE BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW.
So. I’m pretty sure it’s actually a constant level of dopamine/d2 receptors all around, actually. It’s higher in people considered more ‘creative’, as opposed to when someone’s having a creative moment.
…I don’t know whether that was helpful at all. But. Yeah.
Wow Zoe! this was really awesome. I enjoyed this a lot and can see that you worked really hard on this. I’m not sure if you had someone changing the screens for you or not. I think that one of the problems is that the cue you were giving for the slide change was missing. It meant that you had to wait for a while which might have affected your presentation. However it didn’t really and this presentation sparked a conversation between me and my dad.
June 17th, 2011 at 9:51 PM
That was an excellent presentation. I don’t know if you were really descretly reading off anything, but it looked as if you were just really confident with your information and speaking from memory. It didn’t sound like you were reciting anything, you were just talking about it. Also you talked naturaly and interestingly and I laughed several times.
Because I feel obliged to leave critisism aswell, there is the obvious problem with you standing in front of the projection, you are occasionaly unclear or pause to long while figuring out what to say (but thats fine since it was from memory) and you weren’t always easy to follow.
I think to improve it you should try taking many takes. This risks the problem of sounding less natural, but you would be able to speak more fluidly throughout with fewer ums and you knows.
I’m just fishing for critisisms though. That was really really good. I thought you were doing flight?
June 17th, 2011 at 11:49 PM
Toren’s comment continued (sorry).
I just figured out why you were snapping through the whole thing. It makes so much more sense now.
Just for clarification, the process of normal creativity and mental illness is the same, but for unknown reasons people with mental illnesses shut down the brains and live in the creativity? I’m not quite sure that’s what you meant. If we could somehow control whatever is happening in the brain, causing the mental illness, would that be safe? If it would be safe it would probably be an amazing tool for all kinds of artists. As you said, some people who were treated couldn’t create the same way they could before. People who are mentally healthy could create in a completely new way. I don’t know if there are any ethical problems wrapped up in that. I think it would depend on how real it is for the artist. For isntance, is the creativity/delusion going to be mentally scarring or unpleasant. Maybe if we could safely change the brain chemistry somehow. Add some more dopamine in there. Consider me engaged.
June 18th, 2011 at 11:33 PM
SOOOO CRAZINESS!!!!!
Throughout your whole presentation, I was drawn into the genuine-ness (sorry, not real word) of your voice, and the continuing flow of your writing. Never was I bored, though at times I felt I could do with a nice, fat, easy-to-understand diagram when you start to go more in depth into the dopamine, the thalamus, cortex, D2 receptors, etc.
If we were to control the amount of dopamine that flows into the cortex, the thalamus would have to be targeted, right?You often use the word “filter” when you talk about the thalamus. How much power do we really have over that part of the brain? Can we control it to a certain degree? Or does it take a chemical reaction from medication to “fix” the filter?If we really were able to manipulate the thalamus into only letting a “safe” amount of dopamine into the cortex, what would happen to the rest?
That’s all for now… do not be surprised if I attack you with another comment.
P.S. I love the whole snapping thing. Like a pro.
June 19th, 2011 at 12:51 PM
DUUDE wow. The funny thing is that just a couple of days ago I totally listened to this thing on the radio all about the exact same thing. When I listened to that, and then to your fabulous TED Talk, I had some of the same questions.
) Imagine if there was something along the lines of liquid creativity which alters your brain just enough to reduce the filter so that your brain could potentially make more and unusual connections? If they have medication which I imagine does something along the lines of fix the filter, do you think it would be possible to have something which in a controlled manner reduces the filter?
With what I know of this subject (which is limited I will admit) is that it’s kind of like when people are between the stages of mania and depression that they get amazing ideas? I suppose it would be at that stage where you have all these ideas but wouldn’t yet be at the point of hallucination where you can’t really do anything, or at the stage where you feel like you can’t do anything at all.
If it’s all to do with that “filter” process you talked about, is there any way to say, manipulate it in the way a mental illness does but not quite to the same extreme levels? Obviously we don’t want to make people go insane, but I wonder if there would be a way to enhance creativity say for a couple of hours, just to solve a very complex problem or get an idea for the next Harry Potter? (I could use that
Anyways, probably totally far-fetched but one can dream…
Also, amazingly well done. Looks like a pro TED Talk.
June 19th, 2011 at 4:10 PM
I remember watching you do this live, and just being in awe about how well you had memorized it, and how you presented with such ease-so much like a real TED Talk! Even though I wasn’t a master at changing the slides at the right time… and even after you changed your subject a million times…
One concept that you addressed wasn’t very clear to me. What causes the sensory thalamus to let a higher level of dopamine into the sensory cortex? And why is this overload constant in those with Schizophrenia, while I’m assuming it often comes in just bursts to others, when they have creative moments or periods?
As many others are bringing up, (in the words of Megan), “liquid creativity” would be a very interesting, amazing, and creepy invention. I wonder how many human rights issues that would bring up? It would be the fight between permanently altering a persons brain and making them mentally unstable, or even killing them, and possibly solving some of the worlds worst problems. Would the risk be worth it? And how would you even get to the point where you could test that product on someone?
June 19th, 2011 at 11:50 PM
WOAH. My mind is blown, taking in all this information about my mind.
So, if we were to cure somebody of schizophrenia, would they be totally uncreative, and just generally a really lame person? And it goes the other way too. If we attempted to make someone more creative, would they go completely nuts and a certain point?
There were some awkward pauses in there though, and what seemed to be some technical difficulties, but it didnt detract too much from the presentation itself.
Anyways, great TED talk, and it gave me quite an insight to how the brain works. (which i didn’t know too much about before)
-Clay
June 20th, 2011 at 12:00 AM
ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND I FEEL LIKE A FAILURE BECAUSE I DON’T KNOW.
So. I’m pretty sure it’s actually a constant level of dopamine/d2 receptors all around, actually. It’s higher in people considered more ‘creative’, as opposed to when someone’s having a creative moment.
…I don’t know whether that was helpful at all. But. Yeah.
June 22nd, 2011 at 2:06 PM
Wow Zoe! this was really awesome. I enjoyed this a lot and can see that you worked really hard on this. I’m not sure if you had someone changing the screens for you or not. I think that one of the problems is that the cue you were giving for the slide change was missing. It meant that you had to wait for a while which might have affected your presentation. However it didn’t really and this presentation sparked a conversation between me and my dad.